"I am just an average type of person, last two years at school I attended boarding school. Played first team rugby, as a front row forward, "loose head". When I left school I started my career as a bank clerk in Pretoria, I was transferred to Salisbury. In 1960 I did a trip of just under 14000 kilometers from Salisbury to London, in 1960. Toured the continent of Europe for three months on a 150cc Lambretta scooter (Lambretta was also an Italian firm, in opposition to Vespa, they ceased production in 1987) On my return to Africa in 1961, I worked in Harare (Salisbury) for 5 years, and returned to Pretoria South Africa 1966. Eventually I ended up as a new car salesman for 20 years, and then met "someone" a very important "someone" who taught me to write poetry, Christian Poetry."